Why I Want A Threesome With My Wife

Note: This is part two of a discussion about threesomes. In Part one, Ken’s wife Crissy shares her thoughts on having a MMF threesome.

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So a little while ago, I confessed in the comments of my wife’s post about FFM threesomes:

“for whatever reason, I’d actually rather have a MMF than a FFM.
bonus for you! me and my tag teammate’ll work you over real good.”

Now, I know very well that MOST male fantasies involving more than two participants revolve around the FFM variety: that is, two females, one male. Ask just about any guy out there what their #1 wish would be, and you’ll probably get the “two chicks at once” answer. A guaranteed top three rank for sure. Hell, it’s in MY top three.

So when I commented what I did, I knew it would come as a bit of a surprise to some. I knew I was going against the status quo.  I also knew I was being honest.

As it turned out, that day, at lunch, one of my coworkers said, “I read your comment. I thought it was kind of weird.”

“Weird?” I asked. “How so?”

“Well you said you’d actually PREFER it to the FFM version.”

Now, he was totally 100% on board with the “two chicks at once” version, but the inverse was a lot less palatable.  That I’d actually RATHER partner up with a dude to take on my luscious wife was beyond his understanding.

When I dug at him for the reason, he confessed that it was because he couldn’t watch his wife fuck another man.  At that point, one of my other coworkers chimed in and said, “Don’t worry, Ken–I’ve got your back.  Well, actually, your wife’s back.”

Thank god for good friends!

One of the replies (TWM’s, actually) to my original comment offered up the idea that more men probably share the same fantasy, but are dissuaded from admitting it due to the fear of it being perceived as a (at least partially) homosexual act.

So, seeing as MOST men seem to have little to no trouble with introducing another female to the mix (and actually will proudly admit to such), but there are multiple stigmas attached to adding another male, I decided to compare the two.  I wanted to really get at this issue of why, for most men, is FFM > MMF?

Typical/actual responses:

  • MMF — There’s another dude fucking the same girl as me. What if that dude is just a better fucker than I am?  What if the girl likes him better?
  • FFM — One chick is great. Two chicks is more than twice as good. Who cares if one is hotter than the other?  I’ll love fucking them both.
  • MMF — Hey, there’s two dicks in the room. They might even touch each other, or there may be some other kind of guy-guy contact. That’s gay!
  • FFM — Two chicks getting it on is just plain hot. Lesbian or not, my dick is hard.
  • MMF — If the female is “my girl” then she’s cheating on me! That makes her a whore.  And that’s a bad thing.
  • FFM — That motherfucker is one lucky bastard.  God I envy him!

Same scenario, different ratios–very different feelings.

WHY?  *rubs chin*

The FFM is obviously male-centric. If there’s any dick action going on, you know whose it’s going to be. There is one object of worship: the singular penis in the room.  Sounds great, no?  But practically speaking, this is the biggest issue for the FFM situation.  You really can’t fuck two things at the same time with one cock.  Sure, you can switch it up a lot, but it’s still only in one place at one time. If you want multiple penetrations you’re going to have to use something else (dildo, bedpost, finger, vibrator, eggplant, toe, etc).  When the only cock in the room blows its load, that’s it for a little while.

In the MMF case, it’s the other way around: the woman is now the commodity which is in short supply. She is the object to be worshipped and attended to, totally unique in her abilities and characteristics.

(I recognize that I am leaving out the other permutations of MMF coupling–those which involve direct male/male contact.  This in no way treats them as less valid or less satisfying forms, but was done intentionally to sidestep the “homosexual” aspect which I believe clouds the issue of a direct comparison between MMF and FFM.  There seems to be NO evidence to suggest female homosexuality is any kind of deterrent to the FFM instance, in direct contrast to those objections raised over MMF.  I believe it is possible to be completely heterosexual and still engage in threesomes of either flavor.)

Like most human beings, I like to be worshiped.  It makes you feel special, right?  What’s not to like.  The thing is, that’s not the BIGGEST turn on for me.  What really gets me going is the EFFECT I have on my wife.  I want to worship HER, to see how, with my art and craft and strength, I make HER wriggle and squirm and moan.  It’s for exactly this reason that while a playthrough helps let off steam and retain harmony in the pack, it’s no replacement for those times that I really have my wife begging for it.  THAT’S the good stuff… When she’s so turned on she can’t see straight or form coherent sentences. Giggity giggity!

For the same reason, the idea of double-teaming a woman has an incredibly naughty allure.  I believe it’s actually MORE naughty and taboo than the FFM case, which has really become quite socially acceptable and mundane (see: homophobia). It’s all about her!

After all, the woman in an MMF threesome is ipso facto more girl than one guy can handle. Unlike FFM, with MMF there are MULTIPLE cocks, and MULTIPLE holes.  More opportunity to give it and take it.  Suddenly a new option “opens up”: double penetration. Not “simulated” DP… we’re talking about the real deal. Lots of motion, lots of friction, different partners, different cocks, different rhythms.   A whole new world of combinations (DP, DAP, DPP, oral/vag, oral/anal) becomes possible.  The center wants attention.  She wants affection.  She wants to be fucked senseless. The men in the room are tools–sexual tools that exist only for her masturbatory pleasure.  They have been objectified into dicks and fingers and mouths–inanimate objects that serve only one purpose: to get her off.  She is a sex-starved, take-everything-you-can-dish-out woman–begging for it all, begging for release–and she can’t get enough of it.

What is that but the very definition of sluttiness (and my definition of epically fucking hot)?

FFM threesome?  Fun, for sure.  Exciting too!

MMF threesome?  Now that’s a thing which promises to unleash the immense latent female sexual power and capacity that must otherwise be kept deep and held secret for fear of pejorative judgments and social stigma.

To behold that bottomless pool of raw dripping lust, exposed and revealed, and to recklessly throw one’s self into it, is, to me, the ultimate form of worship and intimacy.

So here’s the part where I ask the TWMs (particularly you men) to chime in with their own thoughts/experiences/reactions/criticisms/accolades.  GO!

 

Photo source is Ken Gilbert

Toy With Me About Toy With Me

Comments

  1. Hey! Look at you writing for the TWMs! It's totally HAWT.

  2. I will try to incorporate "bottomless pool of raw dripping lust" in a sentence today.

  3. This is the hottest post I ever read. I would never even consider a MMF before, now I want it desperately.

  4. I was going to fix eggplant parmigiana for dinner tonight, but thanks to you Ken that gorgeous big hunk of purple eggplant sitting in my fridge, is going places it never dreamed possible. Big high fives!

  5. Couldn’t agree more Ken. I think it always has to be about the woman. (men can get “off” in seconds if we have too) I can’t think of anything better than having your girl so euphorically giddy from a lengthy and continuous servicing. That absolves any “gayness” in my book.

    Without even getting into the DP points, just having another dick in the room at least doubles my endurance and for that I know she will be eternally thankful :)

  6. This was a lot of sexy words all strung together REAL GOOD.

  7. Insanely Jealous says:

    Oh damn! Crissy you are one lucky woman, I'm insanely envious and want a piece of your man!!! :-)

  8. She certainly is and so is he. Awesome couple whom I love!

  9. I waited for the follow up and I can't say that the argument swayed me. A good portion of the case being made seems to revolve around the number and variety of the penetrations. The Mrs. is of course welcome to contradict me but even one on one discussion of non-standard entry points usually gets me the "don't you dare" look. I fully agree with the wiggle/squirm/moan section there but that is really an end point that the road marked MMF may or may not lead to. It certainly isn't the most straight forward nor best marked road there. Of course, having gotten lost on the deliverance style back roads marked FFM, it may just be that those letters together in groups of three have me worried about cannibals and other inbreds.

  10. First off Ken, thanks for writing this, it takes some courage to post "balls out" so to speak, I appreciate it.

    "Dear Penthouse forum, I never thought this could happen to me but……"

    Couple things that that you really hit out of the park in describing why this is a fantasy that I am sure is shared by many:

    >>>>The center wants attention. She wants affection. She wants to be fucked senseless. The men in the room are tools–sexual tools that exist only for her masturbatory pleasure.

    >>>>>>it, is, to me, the ultimate form of worship and intimacy.

    I agree. I think that there is a distinction however as to what the dynamics would be between a couple that is just casually dating, or are just acquaintances compared to a couple that have been married or intimate for a long period of time. I would think for the latter that there would be a heightened sense of intimacy and worship.. Not sure if I can articulate why I think that but I think it might come down to it being taboo. Doing something really dirty and crazy with someone you have shared a lot of life experiences is pretty thrilling.

    • I totally agree! Doing something dirty and thrilling with someone you've been with for a long time is super hot! Hotter than with any stranger!

  11. I'm definitely convinced of the "why"- and I love the fact that the woman is the focus- but what about the "who"? Selecting a "teammate", to me, would be one of the biggest challenges with something like this. Like Crissy talked about yesterday, do you go with the friend or the stranger?

    • The "who" is a biggie! Hopefully both participants can agree on what would feel most comfortable, if not then perhaps it should be kept a fantasy. On the other hand deciding who the lucky third person will be can be part of the sexual buildup.

  12. I’ve dropped some seed looking at his pictures of Crissy

  13. here's something else that occurred to me.

    judging by the porn i've seen in my time, a substantial genre is made up around gangbangs, which, by definition, means many men and a single woman.

    another very sizeable niche is DP–again, at least two Ms and 1f.

    lots of titles focus on these kinds of sex. THOUSANDS of titles.

    so it seems to me that men (who are the primary consumes of porn, make no mistake) are actually pretty darn comfortable with WATCHING women engage in this kind of act.

    does it suddenly become another story when the woman is YOUR woman? is that what all the fuss is about? basic jealousy? fear of being "outgunned?"

    are men fixated on having the madonna wife to place on a pedestal? afraid to unleash the whore within? afraid to lose control?

    • I got much insight from your article Ken, but I'd like to better understand your own definitions above, of a woman enjoying the pleasure of a MMF encounter with her husband as one of the partakers of the experience, as a "whore", "unleashed" by her husband.

      How does the definition "whore" fit in? For that matter, that the woman only would find herself in this position if she is "unleashed" by her husband?

      • well, there are plenty of women (and men for that matter) that just categorically do not "open themselves up" to new experiences. acceptable sex is a well-defined list of positions, locations, times, etc.

        obviously "whore" is a historically pejorative term which refers to a woman who has "too many" partners. what number is too many is a subjective interpretation. ;) but i also use it as a positive descriptor of a woman who has sexually self-actualized, and "opened" herself to the full depth of her carnal desires and pleasures without being fettered by social judgments.

        i personally know some couples where the man has a wife, whom he places on a pedestal–"the mother of my children"–AND he has a mistress. the mistress is for fucking. the "whore" if you will… the one with the sexual energy and vitality.

        my paradigm seeks to put "the mother of my children" and "the sexually realized whore" into the same body: my wife's.

        • The fact that "whore" still does hold on to the perjorative connotation, has the potential for keeping the woman in the role of serving. She's out of the nursery, but now the sexual pleasure provider for the M&Ms, and whoring is work after all.

          Why does the idea of sexual realization have the word "whore" even attached to it? I'm not so sure "whores" are necessarily sexually realized, and the could serve as continuing to keep a woman in her place.

          • we risk delving into semantics, which was not my intent.

            however, you must agree that "sexually realized woman" simply doesn't have the same ring to it. ;)

            if i happen to call my wife a "slut" as i fuck her, she sure as hell doesn't seem to mind. then again i might just be good with the dirty talk…

            personally, i subscribe to the george carlin school of thought, which is that words are words, neither good nor bad. the intent and emotion behind them trumps all.

            we are all whores, and none of us are.

          • But. but. but. dirty talk can get so much juicier than calling your wife a whore or a slut.

            Anyway here's to nasty words in the bedroom and in the back seat. Have a saucy weekend. Your dirty little piece of essay got a rise, as it should have.

            Keep those home fires burning, Mr. Nasty Pants.

  14. Just for the sake of argument, how exactly does MMF turn the F into an object of the "ULTIMATE form of worship and intimacy"?

    Supposedly she would be in charge of how she defines whatever her ultimate form for that all is, and how much of her ultimate form she's ok with sharing, in order to give her significant other the pleasure of viewing her sharing her luscious formation with someone from the work pool, and/or a stranger off of Craig's List.

    The F could find herself in deep S, if she's not careful, with allowing the M to define how she could best be turned into someone's object of worship.

    On one level, isn't that what the good ol' boy's club did to the Virgin Mary? Only they kept all her clothes on, while they screwed her.

    • as far as someone else defining objectification, i believe "getchasome" said something along those lines yesterday: http://toywithme.com/sexuality/husband-wants-a-th

      • There are no doubt, as many stories of objectification as there are thumbprints. "Getchasome" poignantly shares hers.

        Sadly, many of these rank in comparison to one of the ultimate stories of objectification, bringing it home in Richard Gere's 80's film, American Gigolo.

        Objectification to the maximum level it has the potential.

        • i'm not so sure one gets to define one's own objectification.

          and i'm also not so sure objectification is antithetical to sexual expansiveness.

          in fact, it may be necessary.

          • Really? Yeah I can see how that works, in relation to the experience and the person. It's all relative.

  15. Well…it's a really good intellectual argument. It all seems to be a good idea in your head. It's too bad we're all such terrible prognosticators. I'll be very curious to read the follow up of the actual experience. All those sounds and smells and expressions you can't ever imagine, that happen, and how they made you feel. Both of you.

    As far as the other guy, I would only say to make sure it's someone that can emotionally disappear from your lives. At least for your first time.

  16. Hot. Hawt. HAWT! Well written explanation for what many men, and some of the women, couldn't grasp. I applaud you for being able to voice your fantasy, interest and desire.

  17. This explains, in much better language, what I said yesterday in the comments. The presence of another male is extremely arousing for perfectly natural reasons that are focused on the woman.

  18. Porn may be to blame for some of the connotations that some have of this issue… :( I dont think Ken is talking about the "porno style" MMF. At least my interpretation is of a MMF experience with a caring and gentle "out to absolutely please and give a ground shaking orgasm/s" Love session. (right/ Wrong?)
    All I can say is that if the 3rd party to playtime was a real and alive "toy" imagine the ecstasy that could ensue :) I have seen what a regular toy/s can do, and can only imagine what could happen with two men taking caring of her. Its a shame its all taken so seriously. Monkeys and Dolphins have it right. (hmmm Dolphin DP?)
    Oh… uh, Ken… Crissy… Raises hand ;) lol

    • interesting you raised the MMF “porno style.”

      like i said in the earlier comment, there’s a TON of porn out there that features the “more dick than pussy” scenario.

      it’s being consumed at a high rate. so it’s obviously a turn on, for many people.

      a casual glance at such porn often leads one to believe that the common theme is degradation and dominance of women.

      however, when i consider alternative interpretations i have to wonder who is dominating whom?

      i have the same feelings about strip clubs. people (men especially) love to feel sorry for the strippers. in reality the most pitiful people in the room are the ones pumping out a steady stream of money for a few moments of (pseudo) attention. who is the master, and who is the slave?

  19. Bravo! I love your honesty. I wish to God my husband would make this proposal to me. I love him dearly but the MMF is a total turn on to me.

    I'd even settle for him writing some sort of a guest blog for me.

    • Why does he have to make the proposal ;) You know, You more than have a right to "throw" the idea out there to him.
      but… If he is up for it, as someone has said. Be VERY careful! Rules and boundaries are important. not to mention the security of your marriage! You may not think it, but Jealousy can join the party :(
      The whole discussion can be a major fourplay tool ;) give it a shot. :)

      • Thanks Jamie. I have thrown it out there and got "the Look" You know that look that one may get from their significant other that says "Nigga are you CRAZY?!?!?!?"

  20. omg chrissy, you got to go for it! this is my kind of chivalry. confident, creative, selfless, and seXXXy. and you two are the best couple evs.

  21. Wow man you took the words and images right out from my mind! Ice been telling Mrs PLG for years that I’d welcome the opportunity to tag team her with a friend. We’ve discussed it and I have hopes that one day I’ll hear her telling me to invite a friend into the bedroom.

    • Just remember to keep a few things in mind to hopefully help your adventure be successful and freaking hotter than your wildest dreams. Mrs. PLG has to be totally in to the idea and take plenty of time prior to share your expectations and limits.

  22. this REALLY makes me want to have a 3some with my coworker and his wife

    for the record he says hes into MMF but i think he really means MFM

    and yes i do believe there is a difference!

  23. First of all, I must say that Crissy is one very lucky lady and frankly–I am jealous–big time jealous. This is definitely my favorite fantasy. Probably…no definitely…this will never happen in my own life because a) my husband would never go for this, b) I would be too afraid of ruining my marriage, and c) I’m just getting too old for shenanigans like this. (I would probably end in the hospital in traction or something worse–a slipped disc, a sprained pussy… whatever–imagine having to explain that one to the doctor.)

    Ken however, I think hit it on the nail for me because what it is that I fantasize about in this type of scenario is the thought of being the center of attention where it’s my pleasure that is the total focus of these two fantasy lovers. Call it selfish, but I want to not have to think about something or someone else and instead focus on what I am feeling and being so totally overwhelmed by sensation and feeling, and to have a screaming, mind blowing experience. I, like Crissy, am not interested in the FFM scene–just not into doing a woman, besides, I honestly don’t think most guys could really satisfy two females. Let’s be honest, guys can get off really easy, and unless he is super-stud and able to keep it up long enough, will he really be able to totally satisfy two women? On the other hand, being a woman, I have multiple options for entertaining a couple of guys.

    Because I have fantasized about this, I have given serious theoretical thought to how I could ever see something like this happening to someone like myself (doesn’t mean I will ever do this however), and I have come up with these parameters:

    1. This would have to be something that both myself and my significant other (husband) really wanted to participate in. I know that there is a difference between something being just sex and true intimacy or the love that I have for my husband. As long as we both had an understanding that this would just be sex, I think this is not out of the range of possibilities. I think that when one partner wants a threesome and the other says yes just because the other wants one, that it can cause resentment in the relationship–so both have to really want it.

    2. It really hinges on the selection of the third. I know that I am going to hear a lot of dissent on this, but I really think that the second guy needs to be a friend–not a stranger. The idea of having sex with a stranger just turns me off. I don’t think that a stranger would go into this also with the idea that my pleasure was of utmost importance–he’s more than likely just in it to get off. I think that anal/vaginal sex tends to happen a lot in these MMF threesomes. While vaginal intercourse is intimate, anal tends to make one (me at least) feel very vulnerable and fragile–I wouldn’t let just anyone do that to me. I would feel more safe if it was a friend and not a stranger, but in order for there to not be any hurt after, some rules would have to be understood between my man and guy number two.

    Guy number two must be single–not married or with a significant other in the background. I couldn’t handle guy number two being a cheater and even if it was with a girlfriend’s okay, it would be like having a fourth person there, and I’m just not going there–ever.

    Guy 2 would have to understand that it was just sex and that spouse and I were in a committed relationship and that any contact between I and Guy 2 would be in the presence of spouse (so this friend really needs to be my spouse’s friend mostly). Needless to say, you can’t choose someone who obviously has a crush or any romantic feelings for the female, but friendship would be a plus. A friend cares about their friend and would make sure that the experience was special. Crissy’s drummer guy would be out simply because it sounds like he has a little bit of a crush on her. My husband has a single friend that I could see getting down and dirty with us, not because he’s hot and I find him yummy, but because he is such a super nice guy and always treats me like a fine piece of china (it makes me feel all girly-girl and my husband treats me the same way). But alas, he now has a very serious girlfriend–so it’s a no-go.

    This his side/her side post has been awesome. You guys should do some more of these–they are very thought provoking.

    • There are a few things that make me apprehensive about involving a friend. This friend would now know a whole lot more about you on a very personal level. What if your husband/partner feelings changed after the fact? What if he became jealous of the friend? What if the friend was more attentive, a better kisser or made you tingle in ways you never imagined? What if he sucked? (Not in a good way?) Imagine he takes his clothes off, and you start getting down and dirty when all of a sudden your head is going eww, ewww,ewwwww why is he doing it like that? Now what?

      Any of these can happen with a stranger – true. But you don't have to see them again and to me that would be a real plus.

    • thanks for such a detailed comment, robin!

      as far as the his/hers versions, we'll see what we can do…

  24. Gonna split this comment into two parts because it's apparently too long:

    One thing that hasn't been stated enough is that there is no absolute "right" or "wrong" solution to the question of an MMF. It really boils down to intimacy, and intimacy is subjective.

    Some men (and women) view sex as the ultimate form of intimacy. For these people, it is the closest they can achieve to creating a physical, tangible manifestation of the love and connection they feel for another person. Why should they want to share this with a stranger, or even a friend?

    Your perspective on this happens to be a unique one. But that's not to say it is the only valid one. You obviously have a connection, or share a form of intimacy with your wife, that's seemingly impervious to being changed or damaged by engaging in a threesome. But that doesn't mean it's better, greater, or more enlightened.

    • to be sure, we have not yet engaged in a threesome, of either flavor.

      so all we know we have so far is a connection/intimacy that is impervious to being changed or damaged by THINKING OF engaging in a threesome.

      it is very highly likely that this is as far as it goes. however the act of sharing our respective fantasies has already served to heighten our libidos.

  25. (Continued) – The more important underlying fact here is that this perspective works for you and your wife -should she be ever interested in carrying out an MMF, you'd be atleast be open to entertaining the idea, and so would she. You are *compatible* in this respect, and that's a real accomplishment.

    I only bring this up because not much mention has been given to other reasons as to why this might not work for men other than their being homophobic, insecure, or ignorant. While some men may be like this, many others aren't. For a lot of us out there, an MMF simply doesn't jive with our personal needs from sex. Add to this that many women ALSO feel similarly, and you've got a perspective that's very different, but equally as valid.

    • if you reread carefully, i didn't give ANY reasons as to why this might NOT work. they are myriad. ;)

      in fact, the tone of the post was more about defining and defending MY reasons why i would prefer one flavor over the other. that some form of threesome was already occurring was a given.

      so i have to ask if you feel the same way about an FFM combination? if not, then can you identify why that is?

  26. (Continued)

    I've read the favorable responses from many of the women on this site, and I'm getting the idea that the less secure males out there might confuse this positive reception, coupled with overall open-mindedness and uniqueness of your approach, as the end-all and be-all answer to the question of going through with an MMF. As men, we should also know ourselves and be comfortable with who we are and what we want. I think it's safe to say that in our desperate attempts to connect with and please the opposite sex, we may often confuse what they want with what we want, and that's when things can get hairy (especially when considering an MMF). Men reading this post shouldn't feel left out if they don't want an MMF, because they really aren't.

    What men should aim for is establishing a kind of connection with a partner that is similar to what you share with your wife – but the "how" is completely subjective, and that's the beauty of it.

    • Sorry, make that three comments. Wouldn't let me bunch it all up into one for some reason.

    • no one should feel left out after reading anything.

      what they SHOULD feel is slightly more aware/in the know/enlightened as to the depths of imaginative sexuality and fantasy.

      if your significant other shares a fantasy with you (and by all means they should be encouraged to do so, without fear of reprisal) then you should take it into consideration. start a dialogue about it. ask them what it is about that fantasy that turns up their wicks.

      fundamentally there are only a handful of base emotions from which to choose from. it is highly likely that a similar effect can be (at least partially) realized through different–and much more convenient/less risky–means. employ toys, props, dirty talk, double-headed strap-on dildos, role playing, the last two cucumbers from the garden, etc. i hold it to be true that every fantasy is worth examining, at the least. ironically, the act of revealing those fantasies to your partner can be even more intimate than actually attempting to carry them out!

      -ken

  27. StarlightHope says:

    So, seriously I have wanted something like this for ages but my hubby couldn't handle it. He would get all jealous and crap. Have you read Lora Leigh's books!!! God lord your post sounds like and excerpt directly from them. The Men of August Series is an amazing series that is about exactly how you describe you want your wife to feel. And her book Only Pleasures…hot hot hot…..definetly a first read if you've never read any of Lora's books. It's completely about FMM interaction and worshipping the woman and taking her to heights one man just can't do alone.

    Thanks for sharing..it's nice to know it's not just us women that think that's a sexy game to play!!

  28. My husband and I every once in a while discuss the possibility of a threesome and his response to the MFF is that he can barely handle my needs there is no way he’d want to worry about two women’s needs.

    • imo, women have so much more capacity for sexuality than men do, it's not even funny.

      i think men are–for the most part–pretty sexually shallow and simple, whereas women are much, MUCH deeper (literally and figuratively). a far harder nut to crack!

  29. I have really loved reading both Ken's post here and Chrissy's post previous to this one. Very thought provoking, and very sexy!

    However, I'm surprised that one aspect of pleasing the F, with her being the center of attention, in an FFM style, was not brought up in the posts or comments before now. I'm referring to the flip side of this quote from Elaine Benes in the Seinfeld episode "The Beard" (yes, I am master of google searches)- "Being a woman, I only really have access to the equipment, what, 30 to 45 minutes a week, and that's on a good week. How can I be expected to have the same expertise as people who own this equipment and have access to it 24 hours a day their entire lives?"

    If we turn this around, and realize that men only have access to the female equipment 30-45 minutes, and that's on a good week, the logical conclusion is that it's a good idea to have another F in the threesome equation so that at least one person knows what she's doing as far as pleasing the Fs go! ;)

    So FFM seems like the best route to a mind-blowing orgasm for the Fs (they can take turns pleasing each other and directing the M exactly what to do)- because the Fs both know the F lady-bits intimately.

    Anyway, worth considering…. I'll take my response off the air….

    • it's a good point.

      however, it seems to me that your ability to get off by having someone of the same sex stimulate you would be directly proportional to your degree of homosexuality.

      i can't say that i have had the experience of actually playing this out, but i just don't see me having the same fun being jerked off or getting a bj from a man–regardless of his familiarity and level of experience with the equipment. ;)

      who knows, though?

      • Towel Boy says:

        Well, I completely agree that this doesn't hold appeal for the vast majority of men. But women are different in this regard, and there are more women who this would appeal to than men. Of course I'm not saying that all women would love to have a same-sex partner join in, nor would all men object to a same-sex partner, just talking percentages. Just saw a study on this yesterday: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/gay-sex-vs-stra

  30. witcharachne says:

    Bah.
    I want to show this to my guy, just to get his thoughts on it but I think it's an inopportune time for me to do that, since last night I confessed that I have a bit of a crush on a mutual male friend of ours and he might read too much into it.
    On the other hand, this post has made me want a little "alone time" in the shower.

  31. HappyFemale says:

    As a woman who has done both MMF and FFM threesomes (many times, in fact – and I've spoken on how to do it successfully), there are pros and cons to both.

    For FFM: you have to get a guy who really worships women. If he just wants to stick it in until he comes, it's not going to be the most pleasurable experience for everyone. Also, throwing at least one woman who is more lesbian than bisexual makes things that much more exciting. While a lot of guys think it's all about them, the hottest ones I've had are where he becomes somewhat a slave…he's a tool for 2 women (who are into each other) to get off…and when THEY'RE done, they get him off.

    For MMF: I have done it with different combinations of 2 straight guys, 1 straight + 1 bi-curious, and 2 bi guys. It doesn't really matter. What Ken said is totally true – with MMF, it is ALL about the woman. And it's fucking HOT.

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